Marco, I am not in a state of shock. But I realize that the physicists who vote on this issue are clueless about AI. John ---------------------------------------- From: "Marco Neumann" <marco.neumann(a)gmail.com> I take the silence here on ontolog as revealing, are you all still in a state of shock? :) https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2024/summary/ I was certainly surprised and had a look at the motivation by the committee and it states among other details "the technique involves iteratively changing the strength of the connections between the magnets in an attempt to find a minimum value for the energy of the system" in combination with Boltzmann machines sounds definitely better than machines think but I'm still not entirely convinced it merits the physics award.. Well, I think I am now forced to change my tune when I disparagingly talk about GenAI in the future. Still for me applications like ChatGPT are first of all manufactured products and not a science. Do I now need a physics degree and a degree in brain science to understand GenAI? Best. Marco