Andras, I agree that Elon's new system is a big improvement over earlier systems of its kind. But note what you said below: AK: Yes, they all need big iron, AI is still in the "make it work" stage. Yes, they still hallucinate (and this will not be easy to get rid of, as humans do too). That is the point of the talk that Arun and I will present on Wednesday: Our Permion system is a hybrid of LLM technology with symbolic AI. And it is a MAJOR improvement over "big iron". It detects and ELIMINATES hallucinations, and it produces reliable results that have precise citations of sources. With that huge amount big iron, Elon's system still generates false citations of its sources. That means it's impossible to use it to detect the source of accidents, disasters, crimes, hackers, or brilliant achievements. If and when it produces a brilliant answer to a question, it cannot tell you what sources it used or how and why it combined information from those sources to produce its answers. Permion can do that with a tiny fraction of the amount of iron. (But it can use more, if available.) Humans can tell you where they got their info, and they can answer your questions about their method of reasoning to derive those answers. In that regard, our old VivoMind system from 2000 to 2010 could do reasoning with the precision that Elon's system CANNOT produce today. And even if he could double his 200,000 Nvidia chips, Elon still could not guarantee the precision that VivoMind produced in 2010. For a summary of the old VivoMind system with examples of what it could do, see https://jfsowa.com/talks/cogmem.pdf . Our new Permion Inc. system is a major upgrade of the VivoMind system from 2000 to 2010. You can skip the first 44 slides, which show how the VivoMind Cognitive Memory system works. The slides from 45 to 64 show three applications that no LLM-based system can do today. That system could run on a laptop, but it scales linearly in performance wih the speed and number of CPUs available. With the addition of LLMs, the symbolic power of Permion can do everything that VivoMind could do and do it better and faster. But it can also do the kinds of things that big iron systems do with a tiny fraction of the amount of iron. If more iron is available, it can use it. My recommendation: Sell any Nvidia stock you (or anybody else) may own. John ---------------------------------------- From: "Andras Kornai" <kornai(a)ilab.sztaki.hu John, [without condoning Musk's practices in the larger world] I think this is missing the point, which is catching up to the state of the art from zero in less than two years. Compare this to the European Union, which is still incapable of fielding a SOTA system (Mistral, in spite of its laudable goals, is not quite there yet, still playing catch-up). Yes, they all need big iron, AI is still in the "make it work" stage. Yes, they still hallucinate (and this will not be easy to get rid of, as humans do too). But clearly xAI has organized a large enough group of bespoke engineers and gave them enough hardware to do this, whereas the EU is structurally incapable of doing so, spending all its energy on wordsmithing resolution after resolution. The EU is vastly better resourced than Musk. But it is a captive of a smooth-talking bureaucracy (I specifically blame CAIRNE, formerly known as CLAIRE). Andras