[CG] Re: Zeroth Law Of Semiotics

Cf: Zeroth Law Of Semiotics • Discussion 4 http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2022/12/25/zeroth-law-of-semiotics-discussion… Re: FB | Pattern Languages for Systemic Transformation https://www.facebook.com/groups/125513674232534/posts/5698095106974335 ::: Esteban Trev https://www.facebook.com/groups/125513674232534/posts/5698095106974335?comm… <QUOTE JA:> A statement S₀ asserts that a statement S₁ is a statement that S₁ is false. The statement S₀ violates an axiom of logic, so it doesn’t really matter whether the ostensible statement S₁, the so-called “liar”, really is a statement or has a truth value. </QUOTE> <QUOTE ET:> Well the truth value can me true or false or something else — akin to 5 + 5 = 12 being a true statement, if one knows what base it involves, else it may be false. The same for 4 + 4 = 10 being a true statement, if one knows what base it involves. </QUOTE> Dear Esteban, Yes, reference is relative to a frame of reference. In pragmatic semiotics, frames of reference are called “sign relations”. Regards, Jon