Mary- yes, I'm receiving three copies - but
two are sent to two
different email addresses.
As for 'learning by experience', my view is that ALL existential
entities learn by experience. I include not merely the inorganic but the
full organic realm; that is, I don't accept random mutation as the basis
for adaptation and evolution but consider that both are semiosic actions
within complex adaptive systems.
That is - Mind and Matter are correlates - and as such, a biological
organism has a proto-consciousness and interacts with its environment in a
pragmatic [intelligent] manner.
Edwina
On Fri 26/11/21 1:45 PM , Mary Keeler mkeeler(a)uw.edu sent:
Edwina, thanks for pursuing this significant realm of study.
As complexity grows, coordination and collaboration become more
significant, especially for "intelligence capable of learning by
experience" (as Peirce defines us). You observe:
How does mediation differentiate between valid and invalid conclusions?
Induction is one method....But, entropic rejection of data as 'noise' is
another....Both can lead to problems.
Peirce's theory of inquiry proposes abduction, deduction, and induction
as the stages required for effective inquiry (or learning) — and these are
to be repeated indefinitely.
Humans are well equipped (with perception) for guessing, and we can test
those possibilities by induction. But to resolve many possibilities into a
good guess (worth testing), we need deduction.
You might think of this as "reducing noise." The idea is to find testable
hypotheses, and to test them in order of how easy they are to test (a
process of "reducing noise").
That is just where logical formulation and the deduction of computers
can help. And graphical logic could help humans observe this process.
But of course I agree with your broader applicability of Peirce's
framework!
Mary
P.S. Are you receiving 3 copies of the notes I send to the List?
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:48 AM Edwina Taborsky <taborsky(a)primus.ca>
wrote:
Mary- further to your extension of the concept of
CAS [complex adaptive
systems] to CAR [complex adaptive reasoning] - I certainly agree and
consider such a framework to be a basic semiosic triadic process.
That is, complex systems are self-organized in order to be adaptive
[aka pragmatic], and this requires a method for such pragmatic activity.
This method is the triadic reasoning process, where, given input sensate
data, the System can reference this input to its mediative analytic system
[Peirce's Representamen/sign] wich acts as an If-Then analytic process.
That is, this nodal site holds generalities and input sensate data is
referenced to these generalities to produce a conclusion.
I think the triadic method is a vital morphology in the development of
CAS ..
On another note, the mediative nodal site holds multiple
possibilities for use to analyze input data. A simple system will have very
few of these possibilities and therefore, a limited conclusion. This,
frankly, provides the larger system with stability -you can't have atoms
and molecules changing their format every two minutes]. A more
complex system provides many more possibilities - but this can be
problematic....How does mediation differentiate between valid and invalid
conclusions? Induction is one method....But, entropic rejection of data as
'noise' is another....Both can lead to problems..
Edwina
On Wed 24/11/21 7:04 PM , Mary Keeler mkeeler(a)uw.edu sent:
[Let's see if this goes to the list?]
Thank you, Edwina, I have similar interests and agree with your
conclusion about the applicability of the Peircean framework.
I met John Holland before he died, and explained my extension of his
CAS to CAR, leading to the idea of the "game of pragmatism" — which he
called "a flight simulator for the mind"!
Here are a couple of papers that might help to explain (see more at the
Revelator site, below)?
Complex Adaptive Reasoning:
Knowledge Emergence in the Revelator Game
http://conceptualgraphs.org/revelator/web/papers/keelerkcap09.pdf
Games of Inquiry
for Collaborative Concept Structuring
<http://conceptualgraphs.org/revelator/web/papers/iccs05.pdf>
http://conceptualgraphs.org/revelator/web/papers/iccs05.pdf
Revelator: Game of Complex Adaptive Reasoning
http://conceptualgraphs.org/revelator/web/research/Papers.php
If pragmatism is essentially the scientific method, and we need that
method for experimenting with ideas in order to develop Normative
Science as the study of habit-change, then that game might give us a
collaborative way to proceed? It could (and should) incorporate graphical
logic so that players can keep track of the development of effective
arguments.
Here are just a few paragraphs from Peirce in support of this idea
(selected from many more).
Mary
CP Vol 8 (1891)
Chapter 6: To Christine Ladd-Franklin, On Cosmology†1
316. My work in philosophy has consisted in an accurate analysis of
concepts, showing what is and what is not essential to the subject of
analysis. Particularly, in logic, my motive for studying the algebra of the
subject, has been the desire to find out with accuracy what are the
essential ingredients of reasoning in general and of its principal kinds.
To make a powerful calculus has not been my care.
317. I may mention that my chief avocation in the last ten years has
been to develop my cosmology.†2 This theory is that the evolution of the
world is hyperbolic, that is, proceeds from one state of things in the
infinite past, to a different state of things in the infinite future. The
state of things in the infinite past is chaos, tohu bohu, the nothingness
of which consists in the total absence of regularity. The state of things
in the infinite future is death, the nothingness of which consists in the
complete triumph of law and absence of all spontaneity.†3 Between these, we
have on our side a state of things in which there is some absolute
spontaneity counter to all law, and some degree of conformity to law, which
is constantly on the increase owing to the growth of habit. The tendency to
form habits or tendency to generalize, is something which grows by its own
action, by the habit of taking habits itself growing. Its first germs arose
from pure chance. There were slight tendencies to obey rules that had been
followed, and these tendencies were rules which were more and more obeyed
by their own action. There were also slight tendencies to do otherwise than
previously, and these destroyed themselves. To be sure, they would
sometimes be strengthened by the opposite tendency, but the stronger they
became the more they would tend to destroy themselves. As to the part of
time on the further side of eternity which leads back from the infinite
future to the infinite past, it evidently proceeds by contraries.
318. I believe the law of habit to be purely psychical. But then I
suppose matter is merely mind deadened by the development of habit. While
every physical process can be reversed without violation of the law of
mechanics, the law of habit forbids such reversal. Accordingly, time may
have been evolved by the action of habit. At first sight, it seems absurd
or mysterious to speak of time being evolved, for evolution presupposes
time. But after all, this is no serious objection, and nothing can be
simpler. Time consists in a regularity in the relations of interacting
feelings. The first chaos consisted in an infinite multitude of
unrelated feelings. As there was no continuity about them, it was, as it
were, a powder of feelings. It was worse than that, for of particles of
powder some are nearer together, others farther apart, while these feelings
had no relations, for relations are general. Now you must not ask me what
happened first. This would be as absurd as to ask what is the smallest
finite number. But springing away from the infinitely distant past to a
very very distant past, we find already evolution had been going on for an
infinitely long time. But this "time" is only our way of saying that
something had been going on. There was no real time so far as there was no
regularity, but there is no more falsity in using the language of time than
in saying that a quantity is zero. In this chaos of feelings, bits of
similitude had appeared, been swallowed up again. Had reappeared by chance.
A slight tendency to generalization had here and there lighted up and been
quenched. Had reappeared, had strengthened itself. Like had begun to
produce like. Then even pairs of unlike feelings had begun to have
similars, and then these had begun to generalize. And thus relations of
contiguity, that is connections other than similarities, had sprung up. All
this went on in ways I cannot now detail till the feelings were so bound
together that a passable approximation to a real time was established. It
is not to be supposed that the ideally perfect time has even yet been
realized. There are no doubt occasional lacunae and derailments.†4
Supposing matter to be but mind under the slavery of inveterate habit,
the law of mind still applies to it. According to that law, consciousness
subsides as habit becomes established, and is excited again at the breaking
up of habit. But the highest quality of mind involves a great readiness to
take habits, and a great readiness to lose them [(CP 6.613) 1893].
Pragmatism is the principle that every theoretical judgment expressible
in a sentence in the indicative mood is a confused form of thought whose
only meaning, if it has any, lies in its tendency to enforce a
corresponding practical maxim expressible as a conditional sentence having
its apodosis in the imperative mood [CP 5.18, Lecture 1, “Pragmatism: The
Normative Sciences” (1903)].
CP Vol. 5
What Pragmatism Is [First of three Monist articles, 1905]
1. Experimentalist’s View of Assertion
. . .
412. … The laboratory life did not prevent the writer (who here and in
what follows simply exemplifies the experimentalist type) from becoming
interested in methods of thinking; and when he came to read metaphysics,
although much of it seemed to him loosely reasoned and determined by
accidental prepossessions, yet in the writings of some philosophers,
especially Kant, Berkeley, and Spinoza, he sometimes came upon strains of
thought that recalled the ways of thinking of the laboratory, so that he
felt he might trust to them; all of which has been true of other
laboratory-men.
Endeavoring, as a man of that type naturally would, to formulate what
he so approved, he framed the theory that a conception, that is, the
rational purport of a word or other expression, lies exclusively in its
conceivable bearing upon the conduct of life; so that, since obviously
nothing that might not result from experiment can have any direct bearing
upon conduct, if one can define accurately all the conceivable experimental
phenomena which the affirmation or denial of a concept could imply, one
will have therein a complete definition of the concept, and there is
absolutely nothing more in it. For this doctrine he invented the name
pragmatism. Some of his friends wished him to call it practicism or
practicalism (perhaps on the ground that {praktikos} is better Greek than
{pragmatikos}. But for one who had learned philosophy out of Kant, as the
writer, along with nineteen out of every twenty experimentalists who have
turned to philosophy, had done, and who still thought in Kantian terms most
readily, praktisch and pragmatisch were as far apart as the two poles, the
former belonging in a region of thought where no mind of the
experimentalist type can ever make sure of solid ground under his feet, the
latter expressing relation to some definite human purpose. Now quite the
most striking feature of the new theory was its recognition of an
inseparable connection between rational cognition and rational purpose; and
that consideration it was which determined the preference for the name
pragmatism.
---------------------
He explains pragmatism as a method that helps us to know what we think,
the meaning of which is interpreted as our willingness to act on that
thought—in terms of its conceived consequences.
Modern science, with its microscopes and telescopes, with its chemistry
and electricity, and with its entirely new appliances of life, has put us
into quite another world; almost as much so as if it had transported our
race to another planet. Some of the old beliefs have no application except
in extended senses, and in such extended senses they are sometimes
dubitable and subject to just criticism. It is above all the normative
sciences (esthetics, ethics, and logic) that men are in dire need of having
severely criticized, in their relation to the new world created by
science. Unfortunately, this need is as unconscious as it is great. [CP
5.513 (c.1905) "Consequences of Critical Common-Sensism"]
“Pragmatism is not a system of philosophy. It is only a method of
thinking ...” (CP 8.206, c. 1905).
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:08 AM Edwina Taborsky <taborsky(a)primus.ca>
wrote:
> With the opening of this new site for the open and
> exploratory discussion of, among other things, the use of Peirce in the
> analysis of the modern world, I'd like to outline, briefly, my interests in
> this area.
>
> I consider that the triadic semiosis is both a continuous process in
> the generation of matter on this planet - and- can also be understood as
> the morphological form of discrete entities. That is, a cell is both a
> triadic semiosic unit and an active process of the semiosic processing of
> matter...connected and networked to other semiosic units/processes. I
> consider this outline well-documented within Peircean texts.
>
> This view also goes along with my understanding that Peirce's
> 'objective idealism' is a view that neither Mind nor Matter are primordial
> but that both are co-evolving correlates. {See 6.24 and other texts].
>
> And as such - I am interested in examining the world as a Complex
> Adaptive System, which means that both variety and stability are correlates
> in this generative, adaptive, 'far-from-equilibrium' world - with no final
> state.
>
> These are major areas of my interest, which means that I consider that
> the Peircean framework is applicable to the physic-chemical, biological and
> societal/conceptual realms.
>
> Edwina Taborsky
>
>
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